Sept. 13, 2026
Uncaged: Letting Your Wild Side Come Out
In this raw, unscripted conversation between co-hosts Mari and John, the issue of living behind a mask is explored. The discussion includes whether or not we should strive to be more impulsive and less restrained. Strong emotions and drama best describe this episode.
Escape the daily grind with two chaotic seniors who completely lack a filter as they dive into unhinged, outrageous topics guaranteed to clear your skin, cure your stress, and transport you to a better mood. Coming soon, Laugh Out Loud with Mari and John the podcast!
00:30 - Wild Thing Uncaged
02:12 - Delicate Flower Debate
04:26 - Finding a Voice
08:22 - Drama and Desire
09:29 - Taking Up Space
12:44 - Feeling Beyond Words
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Are you Oh, oh, oh. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
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ha. My adventure is true.
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Yeah Yeah, exactly.
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Technology. Put your technology to sleep, except for whenever you're listening to this on.
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No, I can only hear when I can hear it now.
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I could only hear from one side, but now I can hear both sides.
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What is that about? I know. What is that about?
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So this thing happens when you're alone, where you're able to let go of that party view.
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You're not in front of anybody. You're out in the middle of nowhere,
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and you're able to let go, to unleash, to untie, to uncage.
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What is that? Uncage or decage? What do you think it is? Uncage.
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Uncage. that thing inside that you don't show anyone else that part of you that.
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That you're concealing from the rest of the world because we all have it it's
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a piece of us that we're for different reasons we're keeping a secret or we're
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keeping it covered we're holding it down,
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we have tied it down we have restricted it we have we're controlling it we're
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keeping it down, we're keeping it inside, we're keeping it out of view.
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Mm-hmm. The hat is right, isn't it? You're like, I think this hat is right.
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So what is that? The hat? No. What is that thing you're holding on inside?
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I guess the hat is that, you know?
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Who is that person inside that just, ah, I miss it, you know?
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Like, uh,
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reveal itself? Right now,
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right now, that person inside is a delicate soul. All,
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right. It's like I'm a Southern girl. Okay. And how's that working for you?
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I don't know. I don't know yet.
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I don't know yet.
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I'm feeling like, I'm feeling like, I'm feeling like, um,
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the gentle tide, the wonderful ripple in the wind, the chiffon swing in the breeze.
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Ain't gonna get done, is what I'm feeling.
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What I'm feeling is something inside needs to come to life.
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Something needs to wake up. Something needs to happen.
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That thing inside that pushes and pushes and can draw you out and make you crazy.
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And everybody around you is going, what the heck is going on?
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That person has lost their mind.
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And you meanwhile are saying finally i've lost my mind,
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and you're becoming free and you're letting that wild thing inside of you that
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you've been holding because,
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you've been taught by people pointing or whispering or talking you've been taught
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to keep it quiet keep it down don't show that it's a little too weird do you hear what i'm saying,
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i feel like i'm preaching.
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Ah, and that's why I came into this place to just fool,
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to just challenge myself to,
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find a voice at last, find a voice to speak with, to say, hey, I'm here.
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I am worth being heard. Come on, listen, wake up.
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Don't be afraid, wake up. Don't be afraid, but wake up.
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For goodness sakes.
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This is a great painting. There is a, oh yeah, that's beautiful.
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There's a time to be a gentle breeze.
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There's a time to be a soft flower. And Lord knows, I am a delicate flower.
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I think that laughter is vicious and cruel. You're going to rule me. I am a delicate flower.
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Don't tell me otherwise. I am. Don't tell me inside. So listen,
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here's the trade-off. Here's the trade-off.
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Tonight, just for tonight, just for now, just for this moment,
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I am the delicate flower. Are you now? And you be the other one.
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I don't know. I don't know what I mean. Don't ask me. Don't ask me because I don't know.
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I'm going to ask you, what does it mean? What does it mean? Hey,
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hey, hey, hey. This is not a delicate cloud. Well, I'm saying.
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This is not a delicate cloud. If your wave doesn't. I'm not saying me. If your wave doesn't.
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You said I'm a massive power. The other one. If your mass doesn't take the space, my mass will.
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Do you see what I'm saying? So you need to expand. You need to expand in your
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energy, because if you don't, the delicate flower will expand and become something
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other than the delicate flower. How much do you need to expand?
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I don't need to expand at all. Don't ask me.
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Don't ask me any more questions, please.
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Let me ask you questions. Go ahead. I'm stopping you.
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What? What are we doing here? What's going on? I don't think...
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Oh, my goodness. Boom, boom, boom! Bad words, bad words, bad words.
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It's a last resort for thee.
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Oh, then you are becoming unintelligent and ruly animal-like.
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Becoming unintelligent? Unintelligent, ruly, and animal-like.
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Oh, my goodness. What am I going to do?
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Are you getting more powerful?
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Ah! Well...
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Getting? What are you talking about? Like I said, I ask the questions.
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You answer them. You're the all-knowing.
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You're the powerful one. I'm all-knowing.
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Apparently not. So, like I said, if you can't expand to take the space, then I will.
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Do you hear me? Yes. Oh, my goodness.
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You can stay the delicate flower. You can. That's absolutely cool.
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But is the delicate flower more powerful because she is soft?
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She doesn't necessarily have to go with that. How is that? Well,
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and like I said before, how is that working for you?
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That's what I said before. That was my whole theme.
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Um, the time for the delicate flower, I think is not right now.
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I think right now what the universe is saying is.
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Have a little drama. Have something to say. What do you want to be?
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Who are you? You know what I'm saying?
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So, the delicate flower's not really working for me.
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But it could be,
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if it was done like this.
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If it had an aura. If it was created with a sensual, loving way of being.
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A delicate flower,
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i just can't do that no not me,
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all right anyway food what's going on food no i i stopped myself because it
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sounded like you wanted to say something,
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I'm always talking, so. No, I'm kidding. And I didn't want to stop you again. No kidding.
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But I was trying to just make sure you had a chance. Well, I appreciate it.
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To speak, because I know it's important to you to say something as well.
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If you don't expand and take the space, I will. Duh. I know.
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I know. I'm just saying. I'm expanding. I'm expanding. I forget that this is
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also. And physically. A co-hosted show.
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I know, you're rude you should let me talk every once in a while sure sure okay,
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this thing okay, nobody can see this but I'm looking at friggin,
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like metallic eyes here so I have no idea what the expression is which is really
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cool because I kind of did the same thing yesterday with a hat No.
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So, this is interesting. Is it?
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Yeah, it is. That's what I want to get asked about. Is it? It's very interesting
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because it's a different perspective.
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I'm looking at your perspective.
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Oh, behind the shiny glasses. I, I'm like, I'm like, oh, oh,
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like, almost like if I've got to take a poopy.
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Pushing I just want to push it out get it out say what you gotta say what's
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happening in there oh oh oh what's happening in there and even if I can't put it into words.
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I'm gonna put it through emotion I'm gonna give it the life and the color that it needs,
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and I'm just gonna make sure that there's an understanding of where I'm coming
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from and I have not said anything home that we're coming from. Yeah. Wow.
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That's awesome because I have no clue,
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Well, you're coming from a very powerful place. You're coming from a very direct place.
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And you are saying something that you're feeling from your gut because it's
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very, ah, it's very guttural.
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And so let me ask you something.
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As a witness of what this thing that's happening in front of you with the shiny
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eyes, like you said before, as a witness to that.
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What does it inspire you to do?
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Ah, to be more me. Mmm, can I hear a bit of that amen?
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Amen. Hallelujah. Oh, yeah, girl.
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You know, I was thinking this morning how...
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Think less, feel more. Ah!
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I've always been feeling, girl.
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Oh, let me hear you, see. that I hear you feel.
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Will I do it my way? Do you really? I am singing.
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I will sing with you.
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Yes.
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I mean, you express it one way. I express it another way.
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Okay, that's really freaky. Well, what's happening in my mind is this.
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I'm hearing you, and it's lovely, and I love the difference between us.
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And I try to go into your energy and then go into my energy,
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and you go into your energy and back into your energy and through your energy
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and around your energy and stay with your energy and only do your energy.
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I am trying to see dramatic.
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Dramatic. Even if the words aren't there. Even if the language isn't there.
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Even if you can't discuss it.
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What are you feeling?
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Even if the words aren't there. See what I mean?
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You're going to get weirder than I did.
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Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
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Even if the words aren't there. Boom,
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boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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It's a matter of listening all the time to other people.
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Talking and talking and talking and talking.
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Word after word after word after word. Why?
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Sit down. Take a deep breath. H-O-F-U-A H-O-F-U-A H-O-F-U-A.
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Are you Oh, oh, oh. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
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ha. My adventure is true.
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Yeah Yeah, exactly.
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Technology. Put your technology to sleep, except for whenever you're listening to this on.
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No, I can only hear when I can hear it now.
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I could only hear from one side, but now I can hear both sides.
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What is that about? I know. What is that about?
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So this thing happens when you're alone, where you're able to let go of that party view.
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You're not in front of anybody. You're out in the middle of nowhere,
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and you're able to let go, to unleash, to untie, to uncage.
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What is that? Uncage or decage? What do you think it is? Uncage.
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Uncage. that thing inside that you don't show anyone else that part of you that.
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That you're concealing from the rest of the world because we all have it it's
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a piece of us that we're for different reasons we're keeping a secret or we're
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keeping it covered we're holding it down,
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we have tied it down we have restricted it we have we're controlling it we're
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keeping it down, we're keeping it inside, we're keeping it out of view.
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Mm-hmm. The hat is right, isn't it? You're like, I think this hat is right.
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So what is that? The hat? No. What is that thing you're holding on inside?
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I guess the hat is that, you know?
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Who is that person inside that just, ah, I miss it, you know?
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Like, uh,
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reveal itself? Right now,
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right now, that person inside is a delicate soul. All,
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right. It's like I'm a Southern girl. Okay. And how's that working for you?
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I don't know. I don't know yet.
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I don't know yet.
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I'm feeling like, I'm feeling like, I'm feeling like, um,
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the gentle tide, the wonderful ripple in the wind, the chiffon swing in the breeze.
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Ain't gonna get done, is what I'm feeling.
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What I'm feeling is something inside needs to come to life.
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Something needs to wake up. Something needs to happen.
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That thing inside that pushes and pushes and can draw you out and make you crazy.
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And everybody around you is going, what the heck is going on?
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That person has lost their mind.
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And you meanwhile are saying finally i've lost my mind,
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and you're becoming free and you're letting that wild thing inside of you that
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you've been holding because,
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you've been taught by people pointing or whispering or talking you've been taught
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to keep it quiet keep it down don't show that it's a little too weird do you hear what i'm saying,
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i feel like i'm preaching.
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Ah, and that's why I came into this place to just fool,
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to just challenge myself to,
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find a voice at last, find a voice to speak with, to say, hey, I'm here.
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I am worth being heard. Come on, listen, wake up.
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Don't be afraid, wake up. Don't be afraid, but wake up.
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For goodness sakes.
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This is a great painting. There is a, oh yeah, that's beautiful.
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There's a time to be a gentle breeze.
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There's a time to be a soft flower. And Lord knows, I am a delicate flower.
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I think that laughter is vicious and cruel. You're going to rule me. I am a delicate flower.
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Don't tell me otherwise. I am. Don't tell me inside. So listen,
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here's the trade-off. Here's the trade-off.
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Tonight, just for tonight, just for now, just for this moment,
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I am the delicate flower. Are you now? And you be the other one.
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I don't know. I don't know what I mean. Don't ask me. Don't ask me because I don't know.
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I'm going to ask you, what does it mean? What does it mean? Hey,
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hey, hey, hey. This is not a delicate cloud. Well, I'm saying.
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This is not a delicate cloud. If your wave doesn't. I'm not saying me. If your wave doesn't.
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You said I'm a massive power. The other one. If your mass doesn't take the space, my mass will.
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Do you see what I'm saying? So you need to expand. You need to expand in your
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energy, because if you don't, the delicate flower will expand and become something
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other than the delicate flower. How much do you need to expand?
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I don't need to expand at all. Don't ask me.
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Don't ask me any more questions, please.
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Let me ask you questions. Go ahead. I'm stopping you.
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What? What are we doing here? What's going on? I don't think...
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Oh, my goodness. Boom, boom, boom! Bad words, bad words, bad words.
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It's a last resort for thee.
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Oh, then you are becoming unintelligent and ruly animal-like.
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Becoming unintelligent? Unintelligent, ruly, and animal-like.
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Oh, my goodness. What am I going to do?
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Are you getting more powerful?
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Ah! Well...
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Getting? What are you talking about? Like I said, I ask the questions.
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You answer them. You're the all-knowing.
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You're the powerful one. I'm all-knowing.
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Apparently not. So, like I said, if you can't expand to take the space, then I will.
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Do you hear me? Yes. Oh, my goodness.
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You can stay the delicate flower. You can. That's absolutely cool.
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But is the delicate flower more powerful because she is soft?
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She doesn't necessarily have to go with that. How is that? Well,
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and like I said before, how is that working for you?
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That's what I said before. That was my whole theme.
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Um, the time for the delicate flower, I think is not right now.
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I think right now what the universe is saying is.
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Have a little drama. Have something to say. What do you want to be?
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Who are you? You know what I'm saying?
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So, the delicate flower's not really working for me.
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But it could be,
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if it was done like this.
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If it had an aura. If it was created with a sensual, loving way of being.
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A delicate flower,
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i just can't do that no not me,
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all right anyway food what's going on food no i i stopped myself because it
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sounded like you wanted to say something,
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I'm always talking, so. No, I'm kidding. And I didn't want to stop you again. No kidding.
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But I was trying to just make sure you had a chance. Well, I appreciate it.
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To speak, because I know it's important to you to say something as well.
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If you don't expand and take the space, I will. Duh. I know.
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I know. I'm just saying. I'm expanding. I'm expanding. I forget that this is
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also. And physically. A co-hosted show.
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I know, you're rude you should let me talk every once in a while sure sure okay,
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this thing okay, nobody can see this but I'm looking at friggin,
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like metallic eyes here so I have no idea what the expression is which is really
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cool because I kind of did the same thing yesterday with a hat No.
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So, this is interesting. Is it?
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Yeah, it is. That's what I want to get asked about. Is it? It's very interesting
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because it's a different perspective.
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I'm looking at your perspective.
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Oh, behind the shiny glasses. I, I'm like, I'm like, oh, oh,
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like, almost like if I've got to take a poopy.
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Pushing I just want to push it out get it out say what you gotta say what's
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happening in there oh oh oh what's happening in there and even if I can't put it into words.
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I'm gonna put it through emotion I'm gonna give it the life and the color that it needs,
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and I'm just gonna make sure that there's an understanding of where I'm coming
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from and I have not said anything home that we're coming from. Yeah. Wow.
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That's awesome because I have no clue,
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Well, you're coming from a very powerful place. You're coming from a very direct place.
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And you are saying something that you're feeling from your gut because it's
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very, ah, it's very guttural.
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And so let me ask you something.
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As a witness of what this thing that's happening in front of you with the shiny
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eyes, like you said before, as a witness to that.
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What does it inspire you to do?
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Ah, to be more me. Mmm, can I hear a bit of that amen?
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Amen. Hallelujah. Oh, yeah, girl.
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You know, I was thinking this morning how...
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Think less, feel more. Ah!
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I've always been feeling, girl.
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Oh, let me hear you, see. that I hear you feel.
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Will I do it my way? Do you really? I am singing.
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I will sing with you.
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Yes.
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I mean, you express it one way. I express it another way.
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Okay, that's really freaky. Well, what's happening in my mind is this.
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I'm hearing you, and it's lovely, and I love the difference between us.
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And I try to go into your energy and then go into my energy,
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and you go into your energy and back into your energy and through your energy
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and around your energy and stay with your energy and only do your energy.
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I am trying to see dramatic.
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Dramatic. Even if the words aren't there. Even if the language isn't there.
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Even if you can't discuss it.
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What are you feeling?
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Even if the words aren't there. See what I mean?
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You're going to get weirder than I did.
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Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
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Even if the words aren't there. Boom,
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boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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It's a matter of listening all the time to other people.
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Talking and talking and talking and talking.
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Word after word after word after word. Why?
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Sit down. Take a deep breath. H-O-F-U-A H-O-F-U-A H-O-F-U-A.
